07.19.2012 User Meetup

Agenda

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Session

Description

Presenter

Time

Introduction

We will also have an introduction of everyone on the call so the community can get more personally connected.

Ed Cable

5 min

Implementer Show & Tell

Miguel Joia Santos, Iniciativa Mifos Mozambique

Miguel

15 min

DiscussionSamiha J update | Discussion on PPI/Social Performance ManagementEd10 min

Demo/Tutorial

CloudFoundry Integration

Lukasz

15 min

Open Office HoursSupport/feedback  

On the Call

  • Lassaad (enda - Tunisia)
  • Lukasz Chudy (Poland - SolDevelo - QA)
  • Miguel Joia Santos (Mifos Initiative Mozambique)
  • Patrick Asare-Frimpong (Ghana)
  • Nayan Ambali (Conflux - India)
  • Ashok (Conflux - India)
  • Marco (Quipu - Peru)
  • Arun (GK - India)
  • Keith (Ireland)
  • Ed (USA)

Notes

From: http://sync.in/zuYyeen9cO

Agenda:
- Presentation on Implementations in Namibia and Mozambique
- CloudFoundry Demonstration
- Mifos X and Samiha J update
- Social Performance Management discussion (PPI/Question Groups)
- Open Office Hours Discussion
Presentation from Miguel:
Started efforts in January 2010 when found Mifos on the internet.
Miguel represents SBS (service, business, and solutions)
2 other partners - ICC (Consulting) and Afrisis (Development)
  • ICC - provide training to several MFIs throughout Mozambique
  • Afrisis - team of 2 doing the implementation and maintenance of technology (Natu & Euclides)
First implementation started in April 2010
Support of Mifos community has been critical
Community Contributions:
  • Portuguese Translation
  • 3 implementations
  • Mozambique
  • Associação Progresso (Cabo Delgado) - northern part of Mozambique
  • 3500 members - basic group loans and compulsory savings - still using version 1.5 of Mifos
  • Several custom reports developed. 
  • Pilot implementation - learned a great deal with them. 
  • Profamilia Moçambique (Inhambane) - 600km from Maputo
  • 1000 - 1500 members projected - 250 members right now - started 3 months ago
  • Group loans and compulsory savings
  • Namibia
  • Kongalend Financial Services
  • Financing solar system loans
  • More complex implementation - integration with electronic banking payments, insurance payments, custom reports, Pastel integration 
  • Starting to roll out group loans - will be upgrading to new versions soon.
  • Ongoing projects (Now in half of the projects in Mozambique)
  • Mozambique
  • Associação Ophentana Wathiana (Nampula)
  • Will be doing group loans but using Mifos to provide loans to other associations as well. 
  • NAM Créditos (Sofala)
  • Currently training them right now
  • Only individual loans right now
  • TSECO Microfinanças (Zambézia)
  • Will start in next 2 weeks
  • Individual loans
  • Namibia
  • Kongalend Financial Services (upgrade MIFOS)
  • Upgrade and extend other features as required.
  • Other Achievements
  • Customized report platform - to integrate other data as well.
  • Integration with Accounting
  • Integration with Pastel
  • e-banking integration
  • Insurance management  integration
  • API based on the utilities services payments for loans repayment and deposits using channels:
  • ATMs
  • Over the counter in Banks
  • Would like to deploy at larger banks to get payments to get directly made over the ATM and data flows in through API. 
  • Strengths:
  • Project management to do more efficient deployment
  • Partners with both knowledge in MF and IS - Mifos and Reports development
  • Business Development/Marketing
  • Lots of word of mouth marketing, case studies needed to find business
  • Weaknesses
  • MFIs with little experienice in MF - start it because they have funds or its trendy
  • Need to evolve with mifos and microfinance
  • NGOs not oriented towards efficiency
  • Can't fast track their knowledge and their knowledge on Mifos 
  • Little technology knowledge - difficult to get people using Mifos 
  • Dependence on funding for these programs - need to wait for these investments in MF
  • Funds are lower than they were in the past.
Market Challenges
  • About 150 MFIs in Mozamique including ASCAs which would be good opportunitie for ASCAs
  • National programs financing implementation 
  • Loans management platform for agriculture cooperatives - advancing partnerships to do this
  • Could yield 1 to 2M more clients being served.
  • Professional management of local initiative funds
  • 128 districts 
Questions
Had to do work that didn't go back into Mifos - like reporting. 
  • Reporting done on PHP to get data 
  • Questions/challenges is to now be much more in touch with community.
  • Natu is very interested in Mifos X work
  • Action: set up call with Natu. Had to choose language that was easiest for implementation from their end. 
  • For later implementations did 
API for integration into other systems - how you approached that. 
  • E-banking integration was based on audi bank plugin and then did separate plug-in.
  • Semba: working pretty well - in process of upgrading a few things here and there. 
Lassaad: how is accounting integration functioning?
  • Accounting is always a major challenge. Did integration through specific queries through Pastel. 
  • Still challenged but anticipating more integration. 
CloudFoundry Integration Demo
  • CloudFoundry - platform allows you to deploy applications in the cloud - then can be accessible in web browser
  • Advantages
  • Easy to deploy an application - don't have to modify anything in the code.
  • Can deploy application from different machines
  • Don't need a separate run-time environment or jetty - just upload war file and access in web browser. 
  • How to Do It:
  • Sign up account on cloud foundry website
  • Account is activated in about 2 days.
  • Download mifos cloudfoundry war file - special version optimized for running on cloudfoundry or tomcat 6
  • Can grab this from sourceforge --> 
  • Run several commands in windows console (tutorial on cloud foundry page)
  • Target cloud foundry in the cloud. 
  • Log in to cloud foundry using the credentials
  • Specify settings like memory and other options
  • War will be uploaded and then can access in web browser. 
  • Questions:
  • Miguel: What about properties files - how are these configured when doing this
  • What about database settings? 
  • Configuration settings - would be hard to set up - 
  • Miguel: Currently using VPS for most applications - this would be more cost-effective - would like to organize a chat. 
  • Patrick: what about chart of accounts? 
  • Where do we upload this in? --> Lukasz: could be possible to reference these files. 
  • Miguel: for different clients - do we need one cloudfoundry or several?
  • Keith: right now Mifos as its designed it's not suitable for multi-tenancy. 
  • Action: to document how this configuration and uploading of chart of accounts is done.
  • Nayan to do a demo on AWS AMI and how to roll those out.